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israel is trying to down play the significance of the vote. the last week the israeli officials were saying this was diplomatic terrorism and they have shifted that position to say essentially that the vote taking place lacks substance. early today here in jerusalem a number of right wing activists held a demonstration near a u.n. building, they burned a palestinian flag and voiced their opposition to the vote that is taking place and a number of israels are worried that palestinians because of the vote will be eligible on bring cases such as alleged human right violations to the international human court, israeli's prime minister, netanyahu, earlier described the vote as a set back to the peace poses. >> the only way to achieve peace is law agreements that are reached by the parties directly through direct negotiations teen themselves and not through u.n. resolutions that completely ignore israel's vellets security and national interests. >> despite the prime minister's rejection of the u.n. vote, a small number of left wing israels demonstra
israel is trying to down play the significance of the vote. the last week the israeli officials were saying this was diplomatic terrorism and they have shifted that position to say essentially that the vote taking place lacks substance. early today here in jerusalem a number of right wing activists held a demonstration near a u.n. building, they burned a palestinian flag and voiced their opposition to the vote that is taking place and a number of israels are worried that palestinians because of...
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equal in status with israel, and the united states. and anybody else belonging to the u.n. just for some context here, though, the plo has been a permanent observer. that's been their status since 1974. and that has given palestinians the right to speak out and be heard at the assembly. but it doesn't give them a right to vote. richard roth, who covers the u.n. extensively and is our cnn favorite on this topic, is there to really give a little more context as to what they wanted to and what kind of status it would give them and how far up in status it would actually elevate them. richard, tell us what it means. >> okay. first, just to clarify, hamas not really here with the palestinians. the palestinian president abbas is in new york, met with the secretary general last night. yes, this is, as usual with the u.n., words matter. sometimes one letter in a document could be a time bomb. what we have here is the u.n. upgrading later today the status of the palestinians here. they are in effect going to become sort of a state within a group of states. but really, as you mentione
equal in status with israel, and the united states. and anybody else belonging to the u.n. just for some context here, though, the plo has been a permanent observer. that's been their status since 1974. and that has given palestinians the right to speak out and be heard at the assembly. but it doesn't give them a right to vote. richard roth, who covers the u.n. extensively and is our cnn favorite on this topic, is there to really give a little more context as to what they wanted to and what...
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israel has toned down the threat but was should drop them altogether as congress. it makes no sense to punish pun palestinian committed to a peaceful solution. it now needs to put its energies into forging commitments to restart the peace talks. >> i think that's critical. the next two months, how we react to this, obviously congress may well try to eliminate all aid to the palestinian authority. that has its own problems in terms of driving them towards potential bankruptcy. israel has potential weapon in withholding tax revenue, collects on behalf of the palestinians. the best outcome here would be the united states goes well, we regret this, let's move on. and then the other aspect would, standing up immediately after this, but today in the u.n. and and say, i'm prepared to go into negotiations without preconditions. if you get those three, you know, legs of the stool, now you have something to kind of work with, if otherwise if everyone takes their own unilateral action you come out of this again, empowering hamas. >> p.j., where is the white house on this? i m
israel has toned down the threat but was should drop them altogether as congress. it makes no sense to punish pun palestinian committed to a peaceful solution. it now needs to put its energies into forging commitments to restart the peace talks. >> i think that's critical. the next two months, how we react to this, obviously congress may well try to eliminate all aid to the palestinian authority. that has its own problems in terms of driving them towards potential bankruptcy. israel has...
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that would help the process of delegitimizing israel in the eyes of the world, presenting israel as a criminal. that's an issue which is of great concern. >> the fact of the matter, that will only setback actual peace negotiations. martin fletcher in tel aviv. thank you. busy week for you. >>> up next, breaking with boehner. the first republican to endorse the president's version of a compromise on taxes to avoid going over the fiscal cliff. oklahoma congressman tom cole joins me next. first, a look ahead at the president's schedule. one big thing on the schedule today that everybody is fairly interested in. that's that lunch with mitt romney. we're told no cameras. we'll see. we of the white house press corps officially protesting. we'd like to force them to let there be some official fourth estate coverage of this historic event. we'll see if they grant it. you're watching "the daily rundown" only on msnbc. a winter wonderland doesn't just happen. it takes some doing. some coordinating. and a trip to the one place with the new ideas that help us pull it all together. from the things
that would help the process of delegitimizing israel in the eyes of the world, presenting israel as a criminal. that's an issue which is of great concern. >> the fact of the matter, that will only setback actual peace negotiations. martin fletcher in tel aviv. thank you. busy week for you. >>> up next, breaking with boehner. the first republican to endorse the president's version of a compromise on taxes to avoid going over the fiscal cliff. oklahoma congressman tom cole joins me...
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the israel and u.s. voted no saying two-state achievement can only be achieveed through the direct negotiations. >> today unfortunate and counterproductive resolution places further obstams to pass to peace. that's why the united states voted against it. >> last year, mahmoud abbas sought statehood through the security council. israeli officials brand it as a public relations act without any real meaning. >> why continue to make painful sacrifices for peace in exchange for pieces of paper that the other side will not honor. >> it will make it less likely. >> jerusalem, as the prime minister benjamin netanyahu called abbas' speech hostile and poisonous and full of false propaganda. it seems tonight the 1947 vision of two sides living peacefully side-by-side is as elusive as 65 years ago. >> bret: eric shown outside the united nations. thank you. still ahead, what gets cut to avoid going over the so-called fiscal cliff? first, it may be legal but it doesn't mean you can get away with it. legalized marijuan
the israel and u.s. voted no saying two-state achievement can only be achieveed through the direct negotiations. >> today unfortunate and counterproductive resolution places further obstams to pass to peace. that's why the united states voted against it. >> last year, mahmoud abbas sought statehood through the security council. israeli officials brand it as a public relations act without any real meaning. >> why continue to make painful sacrifices for peace in exchange for...
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israel- unfriendly than previous administrations in a very israel-friendly country, especially obama, who does not have the best of relationships with benjamin netanyahu, the israeli prime minister. they had to do this publicly. of course, they say that it is for different reasons. they say the only way to a palestinian state it is through direct negotiations. we all know that has not worked in the past years, especially the obama administration. the administration has failed, actually, to do anything for the peace process, and some are hoping it might change with the new administration. secretary clinton is leaving, and there are hopes that may be things will pick up again with her successor. >> thanks for the update. >> now for the view from jerusalem, let's cross over to our correspondent who is standing by for us there. the israeli prime minister has condemned the palestinian move. can you tell us more about how israel views this? >> i think israel is concerned that through this upgrade, palestinians could challenge israel legally and diplomatically now. in past weeks, we have he
israel- unfriendly than previous administrations in a very israel-friendly country, especially obama, who does not have the best of relationships with benjamin netanyahu, the israeli prime minister. they had to do this publicly. of course, they say that it is for different reasons. they say the only way to a palestinian state it is through direct negotiations. we all know that has not worked in the past years, especially the obama administration. the administration has failed, actually, to do...
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says needs to be done at the peace table with israel. >> all right. elise labott and richard roth, thanks to both of you. we'll be right back. ♪ we were skipping stones and letting go ♪ [ female announcer ] nature valley granola bars, rich dark chocolate, toasted oats. perfect combinations of nature's delicious ingredients, from nature valley. ♪ nature valley granola bars, nature at its most delicious. since ameriprise financial was founded back in 1894, they've been committed to putting clients first. helping generations through tough times. good times. never taking a bailout. there when you need them. helping millions of americans over the centuries. the strength of a global financial leader. the heart of a one-to-one relationship. together for your future. ♪ humans -- sometimes life trips us up. and sometimes, we trip ourselves up, but that's okay. at liberty mutual insurance we can "untrip" you as you go through your life with personalized policies and discounts when you need them most. just call... and speak with a licensed representative
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or israel actually hurts the only thing that has been working. so i think all of these things together come to produce would what i would hope would be a more rational response. >> warner: so bottom line: what impact will this have on, say, the prospects for moving at all off the negotiation which is have been stalled for so many years ? >> i think nothing is big is going to have-to-happen until after the israeli elections in january and hopefully we'll see a broader-based government and we'll see also president abbas realize two years of impasse, not coming to the table has not really yielded much and that they will basically realize you could have all the symbolic votevoteat theup as you want bus no substitute for working out your differences face to face and the road to statehood leads through peace. >> warner: you mean through negotiated peace. >> right. >> warner: but that would require the palestinians to drop their precondition on talks, right? which has been first israel has to stop building settlements. >> i think it would require action
or israel actually hurts the only thing that has been working. so i think all of these things together come to produce would what i would hope would be a more rational response. >> warner: so bottom line: what impact will this have on, say, the prospects for moving at all off the negotiation which is have been stalled for so many years ? >> i think nothing is big is going to have-to-happen until after the israeli elections in january and hopefully we'll see a broader-based...
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hamas and israel going on. it seemed mahmoud abbas becoming an influential figure here in the palestinian territories. a lot of people here also in the west bank that said hamas was essentially the one that stands up to israel. mahmoud abbas was seen as very weak. if you look at the several few days before this u.n. bid in the run up to all this, his poll numbers have really increased. he has gotten a lot more popular here in the palestinian territory. so, certainly, in many ways, this speech that he gave before that vote was a make or break moment for mahmoud abbas. it seems as though he carried some momentum from that. it's unclear, however, wolf, how long that is going to last. because tomorrow people are going to wake up and they're going to notice not much is going to change. the actual status of the palestinian territories really hasn't changed very much on the ground. that is something that israel has been saying, as well. they say in the end, this is a piece of paper. however, this is by no means that s
hamas and israel going on. it seemed mahmoud abbas becoming an influential figure here in the palestinian territories. a lot of people here also in the west bank that said hamas was essentially the one that stands up to israel. mahmoud abbas was seen as very weak. if you look at the several few days before this u.n. bid in the run up to all this, his poll numbers have really increased. he has gotten a lot more popular here in the palestinian territory. so, certainly, in many ways, this speech...
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bad events in israel and gaza we could see that is that that is that israel has a size of a job instead of has to be attacked by war more than one thousand five hundred rockets we can understand security concerns that's why we have a special relationship and that's why we are very concerned about the upcoming process with our decision to abstain this time we would make very clear that we support the ultimate goal of two state solution and that we would encourage everybody to come back to the negotiating table in order to find a peaceful solution for both sides or just keep abreast of it all i can let you know the vote on the great a palestinian state is that the united nations expected it's a place twenty one hours g.m.t. tonight we'll of course keep you up to date on the outcome. the wide reaching leveson report into the standards of the u.k. press has suggested it should be regulated by a new independent body backed by legislation the prime minister cameron's agreed that contact between politicians and media exactly should be made public one of the first reactions polyploid joins me l
bad events in israel and gaza we could see that is that that is that israel has a size of a job instead of has to be attacked by war more than one thousand five hundred rockets we can understand security concerns that's why we have a special relationship and that's why we are very concerned about the upcoming process with our decision to abstain this time we would make very clear that we support the ultimate goal of two state solution and that we would encourage everybody to come back to the...
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human rights council which has been very anti-israel. and her defense is, look, we do it because it would have been even worse if america hadn't been there to defend israel as this israel bashing went on. >> part of the problem with that statement is that it's indefensible. she made that statement two weeks after the human rights council finished a session in which it passed more israel-bashing resolutions than it had at any session before. so if her presence is doing any good -- or our presence is doing any good, it's not perceptible. megyn: what about syria? we've lost our focus on it in the recent weeks and months with the election, but they are involved in a civil war now, and it was said that bashar assad was about to go. well, he hasn't gone, and, you know, thousands upon thousands of children are dying in syria, many being tortured in front of tear families, and the -- in front of their families, and the unite isn't doing that much. we tried to do something at the united nations, it failed. >> it failed in large measure because th
human rights council which has been very anti-israel. and her defense is, look, we do it because it would have been even worse if america hadn't been there to defend israel as this israel bashing went on. >> part of the problem with that statement is that it's indefensible. she made that statement two weeks after the human rights council finished a session in which it passed more israel-bashing resolutions than it had at any session before. so if her presence is doing any good -- or our...
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israel signed to a violation with israel and with the international community and only by. negotiations can be established in palestinian state and by the way israel is not against a palestinian state israel is against a one sided clear relations we want to negotiate to have security first of all and that the palestinians will recognize that israel is not just a state but a jewish state and a homeland for jews and we want to live in peace that's all we just don't want to do in some area will become another terrorist base as we already have and i mean proponents of course say the peace talks might go better if we're between two more say equal entities rather than israel the powerhouse in a comparable light weight palestine is not a valid point. no because the whole negotiations is to establish a new palestinian state and the oslo accords that was signed in ninety three spoke about the fact that the establishment of a new palestinian state can be only through direct negotiations so now what mahmoud abbas does it's not a step forward it's a step aside or even you know a step.
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well israel is being split clearly the government of israel has. its best to. work with the only country on the world in order to prevent that but seemingly it's a huge success for the palestinians. like myself like many other peace activists and you it is really politicians who believe that this was the right thing to do because at the end of the what the u.n. has voted is not only in favor of the palestinian appeal but they voted in favor of peace voting in favor of peace and two state solution is voting in favor as well as voting for palestine. egypt's national assembly is expected to vote on a new constitution later on thursday hoping to appease tens of thousands of protesters across the country rage has been mounting for a week now after president morsi has granted himself unchallenged powers although promising to abandon them once a new constitution and parliament are in place journalist true has the latest from cairo. when this constitution is drafted and goes through referendum president morsi wrote in his controversial constitution that gratian his ext
well israel is being split clearly the government of israel has. its best to. work with the only country on the world in order to prevent that but seemingly it's a huge success for the palestinians. like myself like many other peace activists and you it is really politicians who believe that this was the right thing to do because at the end of the what the u.n. has voted is not only in favor of the palestinian appeal but they voted in favor of peace voting in favor of peace and two state...
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work for israel they set up the torture chambers they were press all demonstrations against israel in the west bank they are israel's collaborators so the palestinian authority discovered they can make they can't put punitive sanctions on us because if they do our palestinian authority might collapse and israel didn't like the alternative option the alternative option would be chaos in the west bank norman and so so if there are these suddenly did exactly what khaled mashal did in gaza sort of into jenin we literally got twenty minutes twenty seconds i want to ask you what will happen do you think that this big bone of contention along the way the israeli settlement expansion if this goes through what's going to happen to that is it going to be frozen will what's going to happen briefly if you can. no it won't be frozen but the palestinian authority will have the option of going to the international criminal court which under the wrong style shoes statutes under the wrong start shoes which are the statutes of the international criminal court they state that the settlements are a war c
work for israel they set up the torture chambers they were press all demonstrations against israel in the west bank they are israel's collaborators so the palestinian authority discovered they can make they can't put punitive sanctions on us because if they do our palestinian authority might collapse and israel didn't like the alternative option the alternative option would be chaos in the west bank norman and so so if there are these suddenly did exactly what khaled mashal did in gaza sort of...
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and the land of israel. [applause] mr. president, the people of israel wait for a palestinian leader in that that is willing to follow in the path -- the world waits for president abbas to speak the truth of peace that can only be achieved through negotiation by recognizing israel as a jewish state. it waits for him to tell him that he will address israel's security needs and end the conflict once and for all. he prefers symbolism over reality, as long as he refers to travel to new york for you and resolutions rather than travel to jerusalem for hope and dialogue, any hope of peace would be out of reach. israel has always extended its hand in peace and will always extend its hand for peace. when we face and a rebel leader who wanted peace, we made peace. -- when we faced an arab leader who wanted peace, we made peace. time and again, we have been met with rejection for our offers and denial of our rights and terrorism. the only thing his story about this speech how much he has ignored history. the truth is t
and the land of israel. [applause] mr. president, the people of israel wait for a palestinian leader in that that is willing to follow in the path -- the world waits for president abbas to speak the truth of peace that can only be achieved through negotiation by recognizing israel as a jewish state. it waits for him to tell him that he will address israel's security needs and end the conflict once and for all. he prefers symbolism over reality, as long as he refers to travel to new york for you...
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this is something that israel and the u.s. have spent months lobbying against. i want to bring in jim clancy to put this in perspective here from cnn international. jim, first of all, what does this mean in very plain terms, for the palestinians if they get this upgraded status at the u.n., the significance? >> somebody calls them a state. they are allowed to join international organizations. they're even allowed to join the international criminal court. now, this is what worries israel and the united states because in doing so, they could file complaints with the court about the occupation, how palestinians are being treated. right now they have no such recourse. this is what could trigger a backlash by the u.s. and israel, who are downplaying it now saying that it's really meaningless, it doesn't have much meaning, and in a sense they're right, but for the palestinians, as can you see there in ramallah, it has incredible meaning, and it's got meaning for mahmoud abbas and fatah. this is a group completely sidelined by what hamas was doing in gaza. these are th
this is something that israel and the u.s. have spent months lobbying against. i want to bring in jim clancy to put this in perspective here from cnn international. jim, first of all, what does this mean in very plain terms, for the palestinians if they get this upgraded status at the u.n., the significance? >> somebody calls them a state. they are allowed to join international organizations. they're even allowed to join the international criminal court. now, this is what worries israel...
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, which will negotiate with israel. the united states has to find some way to keep him alive politically. lou: to that end that we might expect, perhaps, the autopsy results. coincide with the declaration of statehood by the general assembly. >> it is a holy spot. the question is not if he was poisoned its you did it. you know, is real, his colleague. lou: we thank you both. joining us tomorrow. ramping up ranking member of the banking committee. congressman devon yes, of california joins us. a member of the house financial-services committee and former verizon ceo among our guests. say with us. the president tells america again he has a mandate for higher taxes.@ the "a-team" does not necessarily agree. we will be right back. ♪ lou: rolling out the fiscal cliff could drive the country into recession, teamster president james hoffa says, so what. he thinks protecting intelligence programs is far more importance. >> we won the election command now we have to stand tall to make sure we protect the safety net medicare so
, which will negotiate with israel. the united states has to find some way to keep him alive politically. lou: to that end that we might expect, perhaps, the autopsy results. coincide with the declaration of statehood by the general assembly. >> it is a holy spot. the question is not if he was poisoned its you did it. you know, is real, his colleague. lou: we thank you both. joining us tomorrow. ramping up ranking member of the banking committee. congressman devon yes, of california joins...
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to to remind you that israel did everything that israel could to proceed to give chance to this to this process we stopped if buildings stopped building in day in some area for turn months what no government before this government and at the end of the of this. of this step of israel nothing happened palestinians didn't get back to the negotiations they did back very symbolically and it was done in two weeks and it again failed so i think that israel done everything he could to bring back this process but again we have to provide security to israel. when the key question is if the u.n. approves a palestinian state to drive is what it would be for the future of israeli settlements in the west bank and east jerusalem but my finkelstein's american political scientist now activist he told me the upgraded status may help palestinians in their fight for territory. won't be frozen but the palestinian authority will have the option of going to the international criminal court which are under the wrong statues statutes under the rome star choose which are the statutes of the international crimin
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against the effort it could give palestinians new leverage against israel. mahmoud abbas has said he will not negotiate with israel as long as it keeps expanding settlements in the west bank. and the israeli prime minister has refused to freeze that construction. "the fox report's" correspondent jonathan hunt is at the united nations tonight. january jonathan explain the u.s. here. >> it boils down to the simple argue that officials believe this will hinder rather than help the peace process between the israelis and palestinians, that it will enable and encourage the palestinians to pursue war crimes charges in other international institutions such as the international criminal court against israeli officials over the actions that they have taken recently in past years in gaza. in the words of the secretary of state hillary clinton today, it is simply not helpful. listen. >> path to a two state solution that fulfills the aspirations of the palestinian people is through germ and ramallah, not new york. we oppose palestinian efforts to upgrade their status at
against the effort it could give palestinians new leverage against israel. mahmoud abbas has said he will not negotiate with israel as long as it keeps expanding settlements in the west bank. and the israeli prime minister has refused to freeze that construction. "the fox report's" correspondent jonathan hunt is at the united nations tonight. january jonathan explain the u.s. here. >> it boils down to the simple argue that officials believe this will hinder rather than help the...
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and israel are afraid of is that president abbas won't go back to the table because israel is so opposed, and he'll seek these other u.n. measures. that would exacerbate the crisis. >> all right. thank you. >> it's about 17 minutes after the hour. let's get you caught up on the top stories. mitt romney is on his way to the white house for lunch with the president. it's not clear if they will be discussing the fiscal cliff or a possible role for romney in the obama administration or if they're just having lunch. tim geithner also entering the fray, the chief fiscal cliff negotiator will meet with congressional leaders today in an attempt to get talks moving. >>> this alabama teen alleged by beaten by her girl friend's brother insists it didn't happen because she is day. they say the real story will come out when the time is right, for now that's all they're saying. the family is saying it is a hate crime and they want 18-year-old travis hawkins second degree charges upgraded to murder. >>> a texas man is in custody for allegedly making terrorist threats against a san antonio mosque. a wit
and israel are afraid of is that president abbas won't go back to the table because israel is so opposed, and he'll seek these other u.n. measures. that would exacerbate the crisis. >> all right. thank you. >> it's about 17 minutes after the hour. let's get you caught up on the top stories. mitt romney is on his way to the white house for lunch with the president. it's not clear if they will be discussing the fiscal cliff or a possible role for romney in the obama administration or...
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and israel tried hard to get palestine not to go along with today's vote. but they are now down playing it it doesn't give palestine what it wants. it's quiet this morning outside the u.n. but demonstrators are expected to protest the vote on palestinian recognition. palestinians are seeking status as a nonmember observer. palestinians say they need u.n. recognition of a palestinian state in the west bank in order to get israel back to the negotiating table. the u.s. insists on direct negotiations with israel. >> the path to a two state solution is through jerusalem and ramallah, not new york. >> reporter: they recognized the palestine 1977 borders before israel fought and won part of palestinian land. >> we know the occupation will not disappear, we know that there might be certain consequences because israel wants to punish us. >> reporter: president abbas is preparing a speech before the vote. he's hoping to gain support here at the u.n. and at home. abbas palestinian authority was left largely on the sidelines during the battle over the gaza strip. hama
and israel tried hard to get palestine not to go along with today's vote. but they are now down playing it it doesn't give palestine what it wants. it's quiet this morning outside the u.n. but demonstrators are expected to protest the vote on palestinian recognition. palestinians are seeking status as a nonmember observer. palestinians say they need u.n. recognition of a palestinian state in the west bank in order to get israel back to the negotiating table. the u.s. insists on direct...
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given the nature of the west bank, the proximity of israel, the difficult relations with israel, i guess things could get worse. there ways are ways in which they could get even worse. taking into consideration both sides. >> i welcome this statement. with every effort, we have a historical and moral responsibility. >> just come i am grateful to my humble friend. we are dealing with the urgency of it and the way we conduct things over the weeks and months. >> [inaudible] >> this is a matter for the israeli people. i will not intervene in politics. we have always had good relationships with barack obama, and he is one of the leaders i speak to most frequently. we will make the case very powerful to them about the urgency of this issue. we will not be shy of doing that. just as we are not shy of palestinians. >> mr. robin walker, this house should support both sides. also, increasing accountability of palestinian organizations to the u.n. >> whether it would mark a step towards depends on what would happen next. and as i mentioned earlier, there is a sequence which they have hope for the f
given the nature of the west bank, the proximity of israel, the difficult relations with israel, i guess things could get worse. there ways are ways in which they could get even worse. taking into consideration both sides. >> i welcome this statement. with every effort, we have a historical and moral responsibility. >> just come i am grateful to my humble friend. we are dealing with the urgency of it and the way we conduct things over the weeks and months. >> [inaudible]...
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boundaries of israel. given as recently as two weeks ago urging israel to your two international law. can you explain why the u.k. government wishes to extend israel from possible actions in the icc for any future breaches of international law in this series. the second was to return without preconditions. only eight days ago they told the house going to be an acceptable settlement named in east jerusalem, we are not far from a two state solution becoming impossible and unviable. so eight days later to israel's refusal to suspend the expansion of the settlements, changing the very fact on the basis of negotiations come even if future talks get underway is a reasonable position. is it not the truth from the foreign secretary he let the cat out of the back eight days ago when he explained by stating to consider possible reaction of the u.s. congress and israel withholding tax revenues, the position of palestinian authority could be made worse by such resolution. let me ask a man does he believed the threats
boundaries of israel. given as recently as two weeks ago urging israel to your two international law. can you explain why the u.k. government wishes to extend israel from possible actions in the icc for any future breaches of international law in this series. the second was to return without preconditions. only eight days ago they told the house going to be an acceptable settlement named in east jerusalem, we are not far from a two state solution becoming impossible and unviable. so eight days...
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and israel. here's israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu earlier today. >> the palestinians must recognize the jewish state. and they must be prepared to end the conflict with israel once and for all. none of these vital interests, these vital interests of peace, none of them appear in the resolution that will be put forward before the general assembly today. and that is why israel cannot accept it. >> joining me now to talk more about this, former state department mideast officer joel ruben. also palestinian italian journalist and msnbc contributor willa jabroe. both israel and the u.s. say the resolution violates agreements to solve issues through negotiations which broke down two years ago. on the heels of the recent violent clashes between gaza and israel is now the right time for this vote? >> well, it's a fate acomply that the vote is going to take place. it's been in the works for some time before -- really the bigger issue is how will the parties react after it? there's been a calm re
and israel. here's israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu earlier today. >> the palestinians must recognize the jewish state. and they must be prepared to end the conflict with israel once and for all. none of these vital interests, these vital interests of peace, none of them appear in the resolution that will be put forward before the general assembly today. and that is why israel cannot accept it. >> joining me now to talk more about this, former state department mideast...
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state of israel. a few people have such far- reaching and positive impacts on israeli security and prosperity. i have to say on that u.s.- isreali relationship, it is the strongest -- the relationship between the united states and israel is stronger than any time in history based on our relationship and based on the assistance that we are providing. because of his lifetime public service, whether as a young commander or chief of the general staff or as prime minister or minister of defense, i believe that israeli people are safer and more secure. in no small part because it is determined advocacy, the u.s.- isreali relationship is stronger than it ever has been. that relationship is grounded on shared values. the values that we have as nations is based on the ironclad commitment of the united states to israel's security. a lot of that was the focus of our discussions today. in our meeting today, minister barak and i reviewed efforts to -- protect israel from missiles from the gaza strip. clear,sident
state of israel. a few people have such far- reaching and positive impacts on israeli security and prosperity. i have to say on that u.s.- isreali relationship, it is the strongest -- the relationship between the united states and israel is stronger than any time in history based on our relationship and based on the assistance that we are providing. because of his lifetime public service, whether as a young commander or chief of the general staff or as prime minister or minister of defense, i...
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because they say this is an end run, running around the negotiation process -- the peace process with israel. >> the only way to make life better for both israelis and palestinians is solve the issues that separate us. it's through direct peace talks. and we're ready. i frankly don't understand the palestinians, how they expect to make peace if they refuse to talk to us. >> reporter: the palestinians say it's now or never. >> we are moving ahead, as well, the u.s. and a handful of countries will find themselves on the wrong side of morality, on the wrong side of justice and on the wrong side of the law. >> reporter: one thing this does do is show the palestinian people that there is another way forward besides violence. and this victory, if it comes to that this evening at the united nations, will be a significant step forward for the non-violent approach to the peace process. martin fletcher, nbc news, tel aviv. >>> nasa this morning trying to cool off speculation about what the space agency will announce about mars. this after a scientist said monday's announcement right here in san franci
because they say this is an end run, running around the negotiation process -- the peace process with israel. >> the only way to make life better for both israelis and palestinians is solve the issues that separate us. it's through direct peace talks. and we're ready. i frankly don't understand the palestinians, how they expect to make peace if they refuse to talk to us. >> reporter: the palestinians say it's now or never. >> we are moving ahead, as well, the u.s. and a...
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. >> eliot: fascinating development in israel where the prime minister olmert said that he supports it. does that mean they're moving towards meaningful peace negotiations. >> there is an election coming up in israel. what has been missing in past elections is the peace center or left. as they formed a new party this week, if they're going to play that role, either can challenge the incumbent government or moderate its stance and try to see after the u.n. petition tomorrow with the palestinians
. >> eliot: fascinating development in israel where the prime minister olmert said that he supports it. does that mean they're moving towards meaningful peace negotiations. >> there is an election coming up in israel. what has been missing in past elections is the peace center or left. as they formed a new party this week, if they're going to play that role, either can challenge the incumbent government or moderate its stance and try to see after the u.n. petition tomorrow with the...
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israel opposes this decision and says it can only be achieved with direct negotiation with israel. >>> do you think they're at work this morning? >> no. >> no. two very lucky winners of the powerball jackpot. one ticket sold in missouri, the other in arizona. whoever you are, the two of you will be splitting the record $588 million jackpot. >> some of these have been split four, five ways. two say nice split. >> it could be two large families. we don't know. in case you're wondering this morning, 5, 16, 22, 23, 29 and a powerball of 6. >> let the debate begin. we're talking baseball guys. important stuff to talk about. give me a second here. barry bonds, roger clemens and sammy sosa have been added to the hall of fame ballot in 2016. bonds all-time home run king, clemens, the best righty ever ibs, at least since world war ii, sammy sosa, hit 60 home runs three times, all under suspicion of taking performance-enhancing drugs. so -- >> how do you feel about this? >> should they get in or not? >> no. >> don't know. >> i love the honesty. >> should they get in or not? >> of course they sh
israel opposes this decision and says it can only be achieved with direct negotiation with israel. >>> do you think they're at work this morning? >> no. >> no. two very lucky winners of the powerball jackpot. one ticket sold in missouri, the other in arizona. whoever you are, the two of you will be splitting the record $588 million jackpot. >> some of these have been split four, five ways. two say nice split. >> it could be two large families. we don't know. in...
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insists on direct negotiations with israel. at this point, there's no specific timetable for today's vote. >>> a new report shows u.s. prisons can safely handle 166 terror suspects currently being detained at guantanomo bay, cuba. the government's accountability offices analyzed the potential effects if the u.s. decided to shut down the bay. senator dianne feinstein of california head of the senate intelligence committee says u.s. prisons already hold 373 inmates convicted of terrorism and there haven't been any security problems in those cases. but others say that doesn't matter. >> to have them in essence living on the same soil and being -- it's just uncomfortable. i think it's unfair to america. >> closing the guantanomo bay prison would save the u.s. an estimated $114 million a year. >>> it is 5:51. lindsay lohan in a nightclub brawl. we'll have the latest. >> new details on the troubled star's latest arrest. >> and a new way to deal with misbehaving kids. the controversy over one school's isolation booth. >> and we are fo
insists on direct negotiations with israel. at this point, there's no specific timetable for today's vote. >>> a new report shows u.s. prisons can safely handle 166 terror suspects currently being detained at guantanomo bay, cuba. the government's accountability offices analyzed the potential effects if the u.s. decided to shut down the bay. senator dianne feinstein of california head of the senate intelligence committee says u.s. prisons already hold 373 inmates convicted of terrorism...
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. >> they will objectify the justice the palestinians have undergone beginning with the state of israel in 1948... >> reporter: the un vote comes after a cease-fire agreement at the un in gaza. some say mahmoud ahmadinejad needs to boost his own authority and we are looking at why the u.s. is opposing that, allison burns ktvu channel 2 morning news. >>> we have new details about a hero at cement plant in cupertino. they issued a report, they said the truck driver tried to tackle the gunman and save his co-workers. he hid from police inside a crawl space inside a house in sunny veil. deputies shot him when he came out the next day but he actually died of a self- inflicted gunshot wound. >>> it makes six suspicious -- suspicious fires in two weeks. one damaged a mortgage business in alabama and broadway. another one was a burning chair in an alley about a half mile away. now these two fires are very close to four other fires in the past two weeks which burned two homes and two businesses. >> i don't know what it tells me but i can tell you i am worried to death. >> so far nobody has been
. >> they will objectify the justice the palestinians have undergone beginning with the state of israel in 1948... >> reporter: the un vote comes after a cease-fire agreement at the un in gaza. some say mahmoud ahmadinejad needs to boost his own authority and we are looking at why the u.s. is opposing that, allison burns ktvu channel 2 morning news. >>> we have new details about a hero at cement plant in cupertino. they issued a report, they said the truck driver tried to...
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congressman steve israel, great to have you with us tonight. thanks so much. >>> the republican smear campaign against ambassador, susan rice, continues as more senators pile on. karen finney weighs in on what's the next best move then? the time is now to find out why the new push for immigration reform is making republicans very uncomfortable. stay with us. >>> susan rice has done a great job as our ambassador to the united nations. this decision about my successor is up to the president but i'm very happy he has the opportunity with a second term to make a decision. >> secretary of state, hillary clinton, coming to the defense of his possible successor, u.n. ambassador susan rice. yet, the smear campaign against susan rice continues as more republicans pile on. rice had another tough day on capitol hill today. now, senate republicans are blaming rice for yet another security failure. the u.s. embassy bombings in kenya and tanzania 14 years ago. >> it troubles me so much is the benghazi attack in many ways echos the attacks of those embassies
congressman steve israel, great to have you with us tonight. thanks so much. >>> the republican smear campaign against ambassador, susan rice, continues as more senators pile on. karen finney weighs in on what's the next best move then? the time is now to find out why the new push for immigration reform is making republicans very uncomfortable. stay with us. >>> susan rice has done a great job as our ambassador to the united nations. this decision about my successor is up to...
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congressman steve israel, great to have you with us tonight. thanks so much. >>> the republican smear campaign against ambassador, susan rice, continues as more senators pile on. karen finney weighs in on what's the next best move then? the time is now to find out why the new push for immigration reform is making republicans very uncomfortable. stay with us. [ male announcer ] with 160 more miles per tank, the distances aren't getting shorter. ♪ the trucks are going farther. the new 2013 ram 1500. ♪ with the best-in-class fuel economy. engineered to move heaven and earth. ♪ guts. glory. ram. ♪ don't know what i'd do ♪ i'd have nothing to prove ♪ i'd have nothing to lose ♪ i'd be all lost at sea ♪ with no reason to make it through ♪ [ male announcer ] introducing the celebration diamond collection. ♪ if it wasn't for you [ male announcer ] diamonds so expertly cut, we guarantee them for life. zales is the diamond store. let love shine. >>> susan rice has done a great job as our ambassador to the united nations. this decision
congressman steve israel, great to have you with us tonight. thanks so much. >>> the republican smear campaign against ambassador, susan rice, continues as more senators pile on. karen finney weighs in on what's the next best move then? the time is now to find out why the new push for immigration reform is making republicans very uncomfortable. stay with us. [ male announcer ] with 160 more miles per tank, the distances aren't getting shorter. ♪ the trucks are going farther. the new...
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., canada, germany, italy, netherlands and israel. supporting it are major nations such as france, russia, china, spain, denmark, portugal, ireland, britain and australia expected to abstain. it will certainly have widespread implications for the fragile middle east, bill. bill: where are the israelis on this rather? what is their response, eric? >> reporter: yeah the israelis say that status could only come from direct talks with no preconditions. those peace talks have stalled because of the continued building in the west bank and continued violence we've seen in the gaza. this does come on the 65th anniversary of the partition that created the two-state solutions, something palestinians and arabs rejected for three generations. >> direct negotiations is the dna of israeli-palestinian political process. any attempt to exert external pressure on israel would serve as a setback to those who are really interested in peace. if what you're interested in is public relations, then, this whole thing is just an exercise in futility. >> repor
., canada, germany, italy, netherlands and israel. supporting it are major nations such as france, russia, china, spain, denmark, portugal, ireland, britain and australia expected to abstain. it will certainly have widespread implications for the fragile middle east, bill. bill: where are the israelis on this rather? what is their response, eric? >> reporter: yeah the israelis say that status could only come from direct talks with no preconditions. those peace talks have stalled because...
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general assembly gets ready to vote on whether to upgrade palestine's status, israel says it would be a violation of their peace accords. mahmoud abbas submitted a resolution asking to be recognized as a nonmember state and it is likely to be approved with the support of several european countries. israel says it could respond by withholding money or security cooperation from the palestinian authority in the west bank. the u.s. is against recognition. at toys r us. s think you can get similar items at walmart for a lower price? i don't know. let's go see. disney princess bike -- $58. over $11 less than toys r us. wow! that's great. and assembly's free. toys r us charges 10 bucks. that's awesome! razor electric scooter. no way! it's a savings of over 30 bucks! oh -- that is awesome! on those two items -- you could save $42.98 versus toys r us. that is so good! i know! see for yourself -- bring in your christmas list and see how much you could save on the brands you want. walmart. why use temporary treatments when you can prevent the acid that's causing it with prevacid24hr. with one pi
general assembly gets ready to vote on whether to upgrade palestine's status, israel says it would be a violation of their peace accords. mahmoud abbas submitted a resolution asking to be recognized as a nonmember state and it is likely to be approved with the support of several european countries. israel says it could respond by withholding money or security cooperation from the palestinian authority in the west bank. the u.s. is against recognition. at toys r us. s think you can get similar...
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congressman steve israel, great to have you with us tonight. thanks so much. >>> the republican smear campaign against ambassador, susan rice, continues as more senators pile on. karen finney weighs in on what's the next best move then? the time is now to find out why the new push for immigration reform is making republicans very uncomfortable. stay with us. [ male announcer ] this december, remember -- ♪ you can stay in and like something... ♪ [ car alarm deactivates ] ♪ ...or you can get out there with your family and actually like something. ♪ the lexus december to remember sales event is on, offering some of our best values of the year. this is the pursuit of perfection. >>> susan rice has done a great job as our ambassador to the united nations. this decision about my successor is up to the president but i'm very happy he has the opportunity with a second term to make a decision. >> secretary of state, hillary clinton, coming to the defense of his possible successor, u.n. ambassador susan rice. yet, the smear campaign against susan
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. >> we did not come here seeking to delegitimize a state established years ago, and that is israel. rather, we came to affirm the legitimacy of a state that must now achieve its independence, and this is palestine. >> sreenivasan: palestinians said the vote would strengthen their hand in future peace talks with israel. but the israeli ambassador to the u.n., ron prosor, warned that the palestinians are turning their backs on peace. >> for as long as president abbas prefers symbolism over reality, as long as he prefers to travel to new york for u.n. resolutions rather than travel to jerusalem for genuine dialogue, any hope of peace will be out of reach. >> sreenivasan: meanwhile, a bipartisan group of u.s. senators said today they will push to cut off u.s. aid, if the palestinians use their new status to bring israel before the international criminal court. in iraq, a wave of attacks today killed at least 43 people. most of the victims were in the city of hillah, south of baghdad. back-to-back explosions targeted shi-ite pilgrims and emergency responders. the force of the blasts left
. >> we did not come here seeking to delegitimize a state established years ago, and that is israel. rather, we came to affirm the legitimacy of a state that must now achieve its independence, and this is palestine. >> sreenivasan: palestinians said the vote would strengthen their hand in future peace talks with israel. but the israeli ambassador to the u.n., ron prosor, warned that the palestinians are turning their backs on peace. >> for as long as president abbas prefers...
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as lateral son reports, both israel and the united states don't like it. >> reporter: and despite the objections especially from the united states, palestine ans have been able to secure broad support ahead of the vote. they rallied as the president headed to the united nations to seek nonmember observer status. they see it as a significant move toward statehood but the secretary of state warns it'll undermine efforts to restart peace talks with israel. >> the path to a two state solution that fills the aspirations of the palestine people through them, not new york. >> reporter: the vet comes a week after a cease fire that stopped eight days of blood shed. if the palestine president wins the vote as he is expected to it could boost his creditability with hamas in any future negotiations, there could be a price for him. members of congress are threatening to cut the united states -- gives about a half billion dollars in yearly aid to palestine. are. some are threatening to cut that. >> let's bring you to up to date on other top storey. a teen girl from oakland is still missing this mor
as lateral son reports, both israel and the united states don't like it. >> reporter: and despite the objections especially from the united states, palestine ans have been able to secure broad support ahead of the vote. they rallied as the president headed to the united nations to seek nonmember observer status. they see it as a significant move toward statehood but the secretary of state warns it'll undermine efforts to restart peace talks with israel. >> the path to a two state...
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. >> reporter: if the recent cease-fire between hamas and israel in the gaza strip holds, many think prices at the pump will drift lower. it also helps that u.s. refineries are producing ample supplies of gasoline. a.a.a. expects regular unleaded to end the year between $3.10 and $3.30 a gallon. but longer term, the price of gasoline depends on the strength of the global economy. >> my outlook right now for gasoline prices is, we are going to continue to come off some more? the thing with gasoline, you can't shove it down people's throats. they just don't have the money for higher oil prices. hence, that's going to put a cap on it. >> reporter: with only about a month left, 2012 is expected to be the most expensive year for gasoline ever. americans are expected to spend about $12 billion more to fill up their tanks this year compared to last. erika miller, "n.b.r.," new york. >> susie: what determines gas prices? as erika just reported, there's more to it than supply and demand. to learn more about prices at the pump, visit our web site, www.nbr.com, and look for the "nbr-u" tab. >>
. >> reporter: if the recent cease-fire between hamas and israel in the gaza strip holds, many think prices at the pump will drift lower. it also helps that u.s. refineries are producing ample supplies of gasoline. a.a.a. expects regular unleaded to end the year between $3.10 and $3.30 a gallon. but longer term, the price of gasoline depends on the strength of the global economy. >> my outlook right now for gasoline prices is, we are going to continue to come off some more? the...
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and israel have tried to block the recognition, saying it's an attempt to block israeli/palestinian negotiations which broke down four years ago. >>> everybody is talking about tonight's big powerball drawings. the big numbers will be announced minutes from now. the jackpot stands at $550 million now, the second largest in u.s. history. powerball officials say there's a 75% chance that someone will have the winning numbers. so get your tickets out. do not change the channel, because greta will have the winning numbers as soon as they are drawn. two words. office pool. back to "on the record." >> greta: alarms are going off among some conservatives in president obama's second term, his liberal supporters are calling for income redistribution. who's doing that and how do they hope to make that happen and can they? byron york just wrote about that, along with the rest of our political panel. byron, you wrote the article. >> there's been a lot of talk during the campaign that president obama didn't have much of a second term agenda, that he just wanted to raise taxes, didn't have a lot else he wante
and israel have tried to block the recognition, saying it's an attempt to block israeli/palestinian negotiations which broke down four years ago. >>> everybody is talking about tonight's big powerball drawings. the big numbers will be announced minutes from now. the jackpot stands at $550 million now, the second largest in u.s. history. powerball officials say there's a 75% chance that someone will have the winning numbers. so get your tickets out. do not change the channel, because...
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there is in solution to the palestinian and israel problem but violence. the israelis have cut up the west bank and gaza to the extent where you can't put a nation state together and the leadership of the palestinians is slowly going in the islamist direction. we are supporting a movement that will put islamists in power there that will only make the palestinians more islamic so, we are really in a self defeating situation >>neil: why do we put good money after bad? the people hate us more than they ever have, again and again and again. >>guest: stop it all, sir. we have a political elite in both parties who measure their esteem by what they do overseas. we have a crumbling never structure at home, we have a tragic deficit and yet they take money out of your pocket and my pocket and give it to foreign gangsters. it is something the founders could never have believed could ever happen. >>neil: you have to have a network of close friends and help them and get the word of democracy out and you say that is fine? >>guest: each dollar we spend on democracy or cr
there is in solution to the palestinian and israel problem but violence. the israelis have cut up the west bank and gaza to the extent where you can't put a nation state together and the leadership of the palestinians is slowly going in the islamist direction. we are supporting a movement that will put islamists in power there that will only make the palestinians more islamic so, we are really in a self defeating situation >>neil: why do we put good money after bad? the people hate us...
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israel is trying to downplay the scheduled vote. in one week they called it diplomatic terrorism saying the move lacks substance. palestinians will be eligible to bring cases such as alleged human rights violations to the international court. u.s. tries to convince european countries to vote no. so far they have been unsuccessful. latest to flop flip-flop official they will now abstain. benjamin netanyahu describes the vote taking place in a few hours as a setback to the peace process. >> only way to achieve peace is through agreements that are reached by parties directly. through direct negotiations between themselves and not through u.n. resolutions that completely ignore israel's vital security and national interests. >> reporter: it is not entirely clear what if any action israel will take after the vote. is ral had discussed idea of very hard sanctions. they're now taking more of a wait-and-see attitude. the bottom line, israel is not just looking at the vote but what the palestinians do with it. jon. jon: david lee miller live
israel is trying to downplay the scheduled vote. in one week they called it diplomatic terrorism saying the move lacks substance. palestinians will be eligible to bring cases such as alleged human rights violations to the international court. u.s. tries to convince european countries to vote no. so far they have been unsuccessful. latest to flop flip-flop official they will now abstain. benjamin netanyahu describes the vote taking place in a few hours as a setback to the peace process. >>...
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. >> he negotiated a cease-fire between israel and hamas, the words were not out of president obama's mouth praising him for this, offering to help him with half a billion dollars of aid, convincing the imf to give him almost $5 billion of aid and what did morsi do? e seized all the controls of power. already got the parliament and the presidency, put his guys in the military and taking over. connell: in the old days they used to say hosni mubarak was not the best guy in the world but the u.s. can work with him. what about now? >> that is an important difference to make because he was a dictator, hosni mubarak was that he was our guy, pro-american and kept peace with israel. the new guy is a dictator too but not necessarily our guy. not necessarily pro-american. he is part of the muslim brotherhood which is a movement going through the entire middle east now, hijacking the arabs spring and they are anti-american, anti israeli and islamist. dagen: why not pull our funding from the country? >> what we should do is say to them you can't -- your people starve without our aid, they need $1
. >> he negotiated a cease-fire between israel and hamas, the words were not out of president obama's mouth praising him for this, offering to help him with half a billion dollars of aid, convincing the imf to give him almost $5 billion of aid and what did morsi do? e seized all the controls of power. already got the parliament and the presidency, put his guys in the military and taking over. connell: in the old days they used to say hosni mubarak was not the best guy in the world but the...
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israel and the united states are against the you recognition. france and the rest of the european nations are in favor. reports out this area this morning that the entire country has no internet access right now. this is an unprecedented internet blacked out which comes from intense fighting from damascus. syria partially cut off and access but a nationwide shutdown has not happened until now. it is 927 and we'll be back in just a couple of minutes. sam francisco, a live look as we hold out for the drive morning commute continuing this morning. you can see the clouds they are just waiting to rain on this later on this afternoon. we will be right back. [ crickets chirping ] [ traffic passing ] ♪ [ music box: lullaby ] [ man on tv, indistinct ] ♪ [ lullaby continues ] [ baby coos ] [ man announcing ] millions are still exposed to the dangers... of secondhand smoke... and some of them can't do anything about it. ♪ [ continues ] [ gasping ] we are taking a look at the weather and off the coast piquancy here passed eureka that yellow is the rai
israel and the united states are against the you recognition. france and the rest of the european nations are in favor. reports out this area this morning that the entire country has no internet access right now. this is an unprecedented internet blacked out which comes from intense fighting from damascus. syria partially cut off and access but a nationwide shutdown has not happened until now. it is 927 and we'll be back in just a couple of minutes. sam francisco, a live look as we hold out for...